What's wrong with the upcoming template being at the top of the page? I didn't think it looked bad, and it was at the top when Uncharted 3 was still upcoming. Also when it's right at the bottom like it is, no one is really going to see it.

Samuelcd - talk 12:02, June 11, 2014 (UTC)

I moved it down for the benefit of Wikia Mobile users, who, if Wikia are to be believed, make up almost half of any wiki's pageviews. They're shown a mobile site layout, and on a small screen the infoboxes and templates up the top can seem really big and offputting. It's less of an issue on a pc though. Example. I have no real problem with moving it back up, it was just a suggestion that Wikia made a little while back. --Klock101 (talk) 13:53, June 11, 2014 (UTC)
Is it a problem caused by both the E3 banner and the Upcoming template? If so we can leave Upcoming at the bottom until E3's over, and then return the upcoming template to the top. Afterall, aren't all article stub templates at the top of articles as well? Samuelcd - talk 20:21, June 11, 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, moving it back when the e3 banner is gone sounds fine. --Klock101 (talk) 21:58, June 11, 2014 (UTC)

Symbolism behind the Crucifixion of Jesus Christ Edit

What I find funny is that people don't get how deep the symbolism behind the St. Dismas Cross and the links between the characters.

According to the Gospel of Luke, Jesus was crucified alongside two thieves. One thief, St. Gestas (the Impenitent thief) mocked Jesus for not being able to save himself. The other, St. Dismas (the Penitent thief) accepted his fate with grace asking if Jesus would remember him in paradise, but was later promised by Jesus that he would join him in heaven.

What if Nate is a reference to Jesus Christ, as he is pinned against his own will, stuck between two worlds of family and the shackles of greed, ultimately entering paradise.

Sam could be an allegorical reference of St. Dismas, who accepts his fate gracefully, willing to let Nate go while he dies on Avery's ship. However Nate is able to save him and joins him in paradise (Escaping Libertalia). .

Therefore, Rafe could be a reference to St. Gestas, who constantly mocks Nate for teaming up with Sam, his inability to escape impending doom, and is very boastful about himself. His constant mockery would however prove to be his downfall . And that's not even talking about the treasure. I could write a whole thesis about that.

The symbolism in this is mental.